David, what do you mean by

> Hopefully without generating comments that trigger email/watcher
notifications and thus no more dev list traffic.

How else other than a comment could the system communicate results back to
the user? Or do you mean that whatever runs should post a comment, but
suppress email notification somehow. I'm not sure that last bit is
possible... would have to talk to INFRA about it maybe.

> I'm not sure what to make of it... perhaps you can make a specific
proposal.

Nothing concrete yet, but it's likely a good candidate tool for the job
here. There are already ASF Jenkins jobs to look for JIRA updates on other
projects, download patches, and try to run precommit checks. If this is
something we were interested in, I think it wouldn't be too hard to add
ourselves to the list. I'd much rather use an existing tool than worry
abotu coming up with something myself.
Tomas,

I think you're asking for two opposed things here. If we encourage people
to submit lots of patches, some of which may not be ready for automated
verification, then it seems like we must have a step for them to take to
indicate that a specific patch is "ready"

This could be a submitter changing state to "Patch Available" or could be a
naming convention (PATCH-XXX v PATCH-XXX-WIP?) or could be something else
that I haven't imagined. I'm totally in agreement though that if somebody
posts a knowingly incomplete patch there's very little benefit from getting
scolded by an automated tool (and potentially even some harm).

If the state is set automatically, how do we know when to set it?

Maybe this could be an extra (optional?) step for the committer looking at
the issue? Change to "Patch Available" triggers a run on the most recent
attached patch?

Mike

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Additionally, we could use that to start running precommit checks on
> Jenkins whenever a new patch is put up.
> This is a good idea, but we don't want to do this for every patch I'd say.
> We encourage people to submit patches early, probably with failing tests
> and nocommits. We probably want an explicit trigger.
> > Patch Available JIRA state
> In your mind, who is setting this state? automatically or by the user? I
> fear this could just become an extra step that could complicate the process
> > See Apache Yetus for how this might work
> Didn't know it, it looks like the right tool. +1
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:06 PM, David Smiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for researching the state of our JIRA issues and summarizing the
>> situation for us.
>>
>> > Patch Available JIRA state
>>
>> +1
>>
>> > We should also consider running unit tests as part of the process.
>>
>> +1 That'd be cool!  Hopefully without generating comments that trigger
>> email/watcher notifications and thus no more dev list traffic.
>>
>> > Apache Yetus
>>
>> I'm not sure what to make of it... perhaps you can make a specific
>> proposal.
>>
>> ~ David
>>
>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:31 PM Hrishikesh Gadre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> >>For current patches, I think we could really benefit from a Patch
>>> Available JIRA state. It would be a bright big flag for committers, instead
>>> of making contributors have to hound us periodically to look. Additionally,
>>> we could use that to start running precommit checks on Jenkins whenever a
>>> new patch is put up. See Apache Yetus for how this might work.
>>>
>>> +1. We should also consider running unit tests as part of the process.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mike Drob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wanted to follow up on this, since I've been steadily working away at
>>>> old JIRA issues when I have some time for them. I think read through 100s
>>>> of issues and closed about 20 as either duplicates or already committed,
>>>> which is a tiny drop in the ocean of what we have open. In an attempt to
>>>> cut the task to a more manageable size, I only looked at Solr issues.
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