Greets,

I'm about to make the INFRA request to migrate our mailing lists.  For new
projects, this step is documented at...

    http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists

Migration is a little different.  Infra will set up the new lists, copy all
subscriber information, and set up forwards for the old lists.  This is how
it is done when e.g. a project graduates from incubation:

    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2656 (Nutch migration to TLP)

I note that it is possible to set up subject prefixes:  

    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2777 (Zeta dev prefixing)

Subject prefixes are not a tradition for Lucene sub-projects, but I prefer it,
and since Peter goes so far as to manually insert "[Lucy]" into our subject
headers, I imagine he does too. :)  It is possible to filter based on
recipient, but anyone who has set up such filters is about to have them break
as the mailing list address changes from @lucene.a.o to @infrastructor.a.o --
and during a Lucy migration to TLP, such filtering would break once again.

I propose subject prefixes matching the list names:

    lucy-dev@incubator       [lucy-dev]
    lucy-users@incubator     [lucy-users]
    lucy-commits@incubator   [lucy-commits]
    lucy-private@incubator   [lucy-private]

Additionally, the moderators for the existing Lucy lists are myself and Dave
Balmain (who's inactive).  For the new lists, we should have more than just
me.

    http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists

    Apache mailing lists require volunteer moderators. New moderators can be
    changed later but at least one volunteer is required before the mailing
    lists can be set up. Moderation is a reasonably easy task though
    moderators may want to set up spam filtering. Having at least three
    moderators is recommended to spread the load.

Volunteers?  It hasn't been a heavy burden.  

Marvin Humphrey

I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.

Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move fwd...don't mind me!

Cheers,
Chris
On 7/24/10 9:07 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greets,

I'm about to make the INFRA request to migrate our mailing lists.  For new
projects, this step is documented at...

    http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists

Migration is a little different.  Infra will set up the new lists, copy all
subscriber information, and set up forwards for the old lists.  This is how
it is done when e.g. a project graduates from incubation:

    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2656 (Nutch migration to TLP)

I note that it is possible to set up subject prefixes:

    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2777 (Zeta dev prefixing)

Subject prefixes are not a tradition for Lucene sub-projects, but I prefer it,
and since Peter goes so far as to manually insert "[Lucy]" into our subject
headers, I imagine he does too. :)  It is possible to filter based on
recipient, but anyone who has set up such filters is about to have them break
as the mailing list address changes from @lucene.a.o to @infrastructor.a.o --
and during a Lucy migration to TLP, such filtering would break once again.

I propose subject prefixes matching the list names:

    lucy-dev@incubator       [lucy-dev]
    lucy-users@incubator     [lucy-users]
    lucy-commits@incubator   [lucy-commits]
    lucy-private@incubator   [lucy-private]

Additionally, the moderators for the existing Lucy lists are myself and Dave
Balmain (who's inactive).  For the new lists, we should have more than just
me.

    http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists

    Apache mailing lists require volunteer moderators. New moderators can be
    changed later but at least one volunteer is required before the mailing
    lists can be set up. Moderation is a reasonably easy task though
    moderators may want to set up spam filtering. Having at least three
    moderators is recommended to spread the load.

Volunteers?  It hasn't been a heavy burden.

Marvin Humphrey
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
Phone: +1 (818) 354-8810
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.

Great, thank you. :)

> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
> fwd...don't mind me!

I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets.  However, as with our Mentors, I'm
cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
requests, all our listmods.  That way they only have to do the work once and
we don't have to keep going back for more.

Marvin Humphrey

Sounds good to me...
On 7/24/10 10:22 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.

Great, thank you. :)

> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
> fwd...don't mind me!

I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets.  However, as with our Mentors, I'm
cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
requests, all our listmods.  That way they only have to do the work once and
we don't have to keep going back for more.

Marvin Humphrey
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I can also be a moderator.

Mike

On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Marvin Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.
>
> Great, thank you. :)
>
>> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
>> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
>> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
>> fwd...don't mind me!
>
> I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets.  However, as with our Mentors, I'm
> cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
> like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
> requests, all our listmods.  That way they only have to do the work once and
> we don't have to keep going back for more.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>

If one is needed sign me up!

simon

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Michael McCandless
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can also be a moderator.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Marvin Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.
>>
>> Great, thank you. :)
>>
>>> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
>>> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
>>> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
>>> fwd...don't mind me!
>>
>> I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets.  However, as with our Mentors, I'm
>> cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
>> like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
>> requests, all our listmods.  That way they only have to do the work once and
>> we don't have to keep going back for more.
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
>

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 03:35:29PM +0200, Simon Willnauer wrote:
> If one is needed sign me up!

Thanks and welcome back, Simon.  :)

When Doug requested the original Lucy lists
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-832), we used my marvin@a.o email
address as a listmod, but that's aparently not a requirement and this time I'm
going to use my rectangular.com address.  It's slightly more convenient that
way for certain actions.  

With that in mind, what addresses would you all like to use for list
moderation?  Your workaday email accounts?

    peter AT peknet DOT com
    simon.willnauer AT gmail DOT com
    chris.a.mattmann AT jpl DOT nasa DOT gov
    ???? AT mikemccandless DOT com

Mike, you're subscribed to this list using the lucene@mikemccandless alias.
Do you want to use that, mikemccand@a.o, or something else?

Marvin Humphrey

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Marvin Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mike, you're subscribed to this list using the lucene@mikemccandless alias.
> Do you want to use that, mikemccand@a.o, or something else?

Yes please use lucene@ for me.  Thanks!

Mike

Email below works great for me, thanks Marvin.

Cheers,
Chris
On 7/25/10 1:07 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 03:35:29PM +0200, Simon Willnauer wrote:
> If one is needed sign me up!

Thanks and welcome back, Simon.  :)

When Doug requested the original Lucy lists
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-832), we used my marvin@a.o email
address as a listmod, but that's aparently not a requirement and this time I'm
going to use my rectangular.com address.  It's slightly more convenient that
way for certain actions.

With that in mind, what addresses would you all like to use for list
moderation?  Your workaday email accounts?

    peter AT peknet DOT com
    simon.willnauer AT gmail DOT com
    chris.a.mattmann AT jpl DOT nasa DOT gov
    ???? AT mikemccandless DOT com

Mike, you're subscribed to this list using the lucene@mikemccandless alias.
Do you want to use that, mikemccand@a.o, or something else?

Marvin Humphrey
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++