On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Grant Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote:
>
>>
>> : My vote is -1 to the current resolution, because it lacks a plan for
>> : continuity for the userbase. It seems that although development has
>> : stagnated, there is actually a reasonably active user list, and this
>> : resolution doesn't describe what will happen to them.
>>
>> I share robert's concern, the lucene.net mailing list(s) is where the
>> existing community seems to be rallying to discuss an incubation proposal,
>> and i don't wnat to pull the rug out from under them.
>>
>> I'm assuming that just because this resolution says the project resources
>> will be shutdown, doesn't mean they need to be terminated
>> immediately upon the completion of hte vote -- while things like svn
>> commit and the website updating should happen ASAP, it seems reasonable to
>> leave the mailing lists in place for the near future.
>>
>> I'm +1 based on that assumption.
>>
>
> Correct.  It should be noted that the community is now working on an Incubator proposal, so we should be able to make a smooth transition.
That is awesome news!

simon
>
> -Grant
>
>

Awesome is where we start... ;)

Thanks,
Troy
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Simon Willnauer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Grant Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> : My vote is -1 to the current resolution, because it lacks a plan for
>>> : continuity for the userbase. It seems that although development has
>>> : stagnated, there is actually a reasonably active user list, and this
>>> : resolution doesn't describe what will happen to them.
>>>
>>> I share robert's concern, the lucene.net mailing list(s) is where the
>>> existing community seems to be rallying to discuss an incubation proposal,
>>> and i don't wnat to pull the rug out from under them.
>>>
>>> I'm assuming that just because this resolution says the project resources
>>> will be shutdown, doesn't mean they need to be terminated
>>> immediately upon the completion of hte vote -- while things like svn
>>> commit and the website updating should happen ASAP, it seems reasonable to
>>> leave the mailing lists in place for the near future.
>>>
>>> I'm +1 based on that assumption.
>>>
>>
>> Correct.  It should be noted that the community is now working on an Incubator proposal, so we should be able to make a smooth transition.
> That is awesome news!
>
> simon
>>
>> -Grant
>>
>>
>

As a formality, this vote has passed.  I am glad to see that the .NET community has stepped up.

-Grant

On Jan 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Troy Howard wrote:

> Awesome is where we start... ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Troy
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Simon Willnauer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Grant Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> : My vote is -1 to the current resolution, because it lacks a plan for
>>>> : continuity for the userbase. It seems that although development has
>>>> : stagnated, there is actually a reasonably active user list, and this
>>>> : resolution doesn't describe what will happen to them.
>>>>
>>>> I share robert's concern, the lucene.net mailing list(s) is where the
>>>> existing community seems to be rallying to discuss an incubation proposal,
>>>> and i don't wnat to pull the rug out from under them.
>>>>
>>>> I'm assuming that just because this resolution says the project resources
>>>> will be shutdown, doesn't mean they need to be terminated
>>>> immediately upon the completion of hte vote -- while things like svn
>>>> commit and the website updating should happen ASAP, it seems reasonable to
>>>> leave the mailing lists in place for the near future.
>>>>
>>>> I'm +1 based on that assumption.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Correct.  It should be noted that the community is now working on an Incubator proposal, so we should be able to make a smooth transition.
>> That is awesome news!
>>
>> simon
>>>
>>> -Grant
>>>
>>>
>>

Background: Please see the December Lucene Board report, amongst others, for description and multiple mailing list threads (both here and on Lucene.NET) on the background of this vote.   This move has been a long time in the making with many discussions on it.

Resolution:
Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.

Vote:
[] +1 - Shut it down
[] 0 - Don't care
[] -1 - Do not shut it down

A positive vote result means we will shut down SVN access, put a notice on the website and send one to the mailing lists as well as close down any other resources.

PMC votes are binding and a majority of +1's are all that is needed (i.e. no vetoes).   Due to the Holidays here in the US, this vote will be open for 5 days.

Note, a positive vote does not mean that this project cannot go back to the Incubator or that it must die completely, it just means that the Lucene PMC is discharging it's responsibility for the project by shutting down the resources it is responsible for and removing commit access.

Grant Ingersoll
Lucene PMC Chair

+1

"Grant Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

>Background: Please see the December Lucene Board report, amongst
>others, for description and multiple mailing list threads (both here
>and on Lucene.NET) on the background of this vote.   This move has been
>a long time in the making with many discussions on it.
>
>Resolution:
>Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer
>activity and,
>Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the
>community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by
>PMC Members and
>Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as
>Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
>Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET
>community, effective January 31, 2011.
>
>Vote:
>[] +1 - Shut it down
>[] 0 - Don't care
>[] -1 - Do not shut it down
>
>A positive vote result means we will shut down SVN access, put a notice
>on the website and send one to the mailing lists as well as close down
>any other resources.
>
>PMC votes are binding and a majority of +1's are all that is needed
>(i.e. no vetoes).   Due to the Holidays here in the US, this vote will
>be open for 5 days.
>
>Note, a positive vote does not mean that this project cannot go back to
>the Incubator or that it must die completely, it just means that the
>Lucene PMC is discharging it's responsibility for the project by
>shutting down the resources it is responsible for and removing commit
>access.
>
>Grant Ingersoll
>Lucene PMC Chair

--
Uwe Schindler
H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, 28213 Bremen
http://www.thetaphi.de

+1
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Grant Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Background: Please see the December Lucene Board report, amongst others, for description and multiple mailing list threads (both here and on Lucene.NET) on the background of this vote.   This move has been a long time in the making with many discussions on it.
>
> Resolution:
> Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
> Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
> Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
> Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.
>
> Vote:
> [] +1 - Shut it down
> [] 0 - Don't care
> [] -1 - Do not shut it down
>
> A positive vote result means we will shut down SVN access, put a notice on the website and send one to the mailing lists as well as close down any other resources.
>
> PMC votes are binding and a majority of +1's are all that is needed (i.e. no vetoes).   Due to the Holidays here in the US, this vote will be open for 5 days.
>
> Note, a positive vote does not mean that this project cannot go back to the Incubator or that it must die completely, it just means that the Lucene PMC is discharging it's responsibility for the project by shutting down the resources it is responsible for and removing commit access.
>
> Grant Ingersoll
> Lucene PMC Chair

My vote is -1 to the current resolution, because it lacks a plan for
continuity for the userbase. It seems that although development has
stagnated, there is actually a reasonably active user list, and this
resolution doesn't describe what will happen to them.

If we are saying that the project will move to the Attic, then I am +1.

I see this was discussed on a previous thread (unsure if a subproject
belongs in the attic), yet:
* I see several Jakarta subprojects listed on the attic homepage
(http://attic.apache.org/), but obviously the Jakarta top level
project is alive.
* I don't know much of the details of how the Attic operates, but it
says on its webpage that it "Provide oversight for active user lists
with no Project Management Committee (PMC)"

So, this is what I would like to see happen, rather than leave the
user list high and dry.

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Grant Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Background: Please see the December Lucene Board report, amongst others, for description and multiple mailing list threads (both here and on Lucene.NET) on the background of this vote.   This move has been a long time in the making with many discussions on it.
>
> Resolution:
> Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
> Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
> Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
> Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.
>
> Vote:
> [] +1 - Shut it down
> [] 0 - Don't care
> [] -1 - Do not shut it down
>
> A positive vote result means we will shut down SVN access, put a notice on the website and send one to the mailing lists as well as close down any other resources.
>
> PMC votes are binding and a majority of +1's are all that is needed (i.e. no vetoes).   Due to the Holidays here in the US, this vote will be open for 5 days.
>
> Note, a positive vote does not mean that this project cannot go back to the Incubator or that it must die completely, it just means that the Lucene PMC is discharging it's responsibility for the project by shutting down the resources it is responsible for and removing commit access.
>
> Grant Ingersoll
> Lucene PMC Chair

: My vote is -1 to the current resolution, because it lacks a plan for
: continuity for the userbase. It seems that although development has
: stagnated, there is actually a reasonably active user list, and this
: resolution doesn't describe what will happen to them.

I share robert's concern, the lucene.net mailing list(s) is where the
existing community seems to be rallying to discuss an incubation proposal,
and i don't wnat to pull the rug out from under them.

I'm assuming that just because this resolution says the project resources
will be shutdown, doesn't mean they need to be terminated
immediately upon the completion of hte vote -- while things like svn
commit and the website updating should happen ASAP, it seems reasonable to
leave the mailing lists in place for the near future.

I'm +1 based on that assumption.
-Hoss

On 12/29/10 5:01 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> Background: Please see the December Lucene Board report, amongst others, for description and multiple mailing list threads (both here and on Lucene.NET) on the background of this vote.   This move has been a long time in the making with many discussions on it.
>
> Resolution:
> Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
> Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
> Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
> Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.
>
> Vote:

+1.
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On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
> Resolution:
> Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
> Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
> Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
> Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.
>
> Vote:
> [] +1 - Shut it down

And my vote: +1

On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:

>
> On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>
>> Resolution:
>> Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
>> Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
>> Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
>> Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.
>>
>> Vote:
>> [] +1 - Shut it down
>
> And my vote: +1
+1

+1

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Mark Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>>
>>> Resolution:
>>> Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
>>> Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
>>> Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
>>> Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.
>>>
>>> Vote:
>>> [] +1 - Shut it down
>>
>> And my vote: +1
>
>
> +1

+1 - Shut it down.

-----

Sadly I feel guilty of encouraging Lucene.NET to set up shop under the Lucene PMC, but without helping or even really caring about it (other than at the time being for everything "Lucene" under this umbrella).  I've never been a .NET programmer (my past in ASP/MSVC++ predates .NET).  So, along with my vote I apologize for not mentoring Lucene.NET as it should have been.  It seems there's a lot of energy behind Lucene on the .NET platform though, so I'm confident that it'll survive and thrive in an environment where it most fits.

Erik
On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:01 , Grant Ingersoll wrote:

> Background: Please see the December Lucene Board report, amongst others, for description and multiple mailing list threads (both here and on Lucene.NET) on the background of this vote.   This move has been a long time in the making with many discussions on it.
>
> Resolution:
> Whereas the Lucene.NET project has stagnated due to lack of committer activity and,
> Whereas the Lucene PMC is no longer interested in maintaining the community due to lack of interest in working on the .NET platform by PMC Members and
> Whereas conditions set forth by the PMC in October for continuance as Lucene sub-project have not been met by the project
> Therefore, be it resolved that the Lucene PMC shut down the Lucene.NET community, effective January 31, 2011.
>
> Vote:
> [] +1 - Shut it down
> [] 0 - Don't care
> [] -1 - Do not shut it down
>
> A positive vote result means we will shut down SVN access, put a notice on the website and send one to the mailing lists as well as close down any other resources.
>
> PMC votes are binding and a majority of +1's are all that is needed (i.e. no vetoes).   Due to the Holidays here in the US, this vote will be open for 5 days.
>
> Note, a positive vote does not mean that this project cannot go back to the Incubator or that it must die completely, it just means that the Lucene PMC is discharging it's responsibility for the project by shutting down the resources it is responsible for and removing commit access.
>
> Grant Ingersoll
> Lucene PMC Chair